tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1382810614574791176.post5129102689499960130..comments2023-10-24T04:24:51.405-04:00Comments on Orthodox Way of Life: Am I Born Again?Fr Dn Charles Joinerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06402529668011722050noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1382810614574791176.post-74434588402562776932015-12-28T22:20:05.464-05:002015-12-28T22:20:05.464-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Brett Denauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17709756913619826275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1382810614574791176.post-49788238654080514112015-12-28T22:17:29.913-05:002015-12-28T22:17:29.913-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Brett Denauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17709756913619826275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1382810614574791176.post-38961489599816283472014-10-20T12:19:07.544-04:002014-10-20T12:19:07.544-04:001) I would say it is all based on a relationship, ...1) I would say it is all based on a relationship, but ultimately God is the source and provider, even of repentance itself, and 2 Timothy 2:25. Ephesians 2:8 also shows that faith and grace are gifts from God. But the sense is that they are never forced upon us. The decision we make is a response to that gift, it is an acceptance of it.<br /><br />2) Romans 10:9 again, "if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved". You may be right that the "born again" issue occurs when God choses a person. But Ephesians 1:4 tells us that happened even before the beginning of the world. But from OUR perspective, that happens when we make a decision to make Him Lord of our lives. In effect, we go one way in our lives ("I am Lord of my Life"), then cross, and make Him Lord of our lives. In effect, dying to self, but coming alive to Christ. Man is an active particpant in his salvation by the dynamic I describe in the last question. God does provide everything.<br /><br />3) I am not sure what you mean by static, but consider this. Jesus said in Matthew 24:35, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away". But the Word of God is not static in the sense that it applies itself to our lives. SO when it is mixed with faith, Hebrews 4:12 tells us "For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart." The Bible describes the Word as the Word of God, which is Jesus, and also as Scriptures. one use of Scriputre is per 2 Timothy 3:16: "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work". The Word has power when it is mixed with faith- see for example Hebrews 4:2 "For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed." This is consistent with Gospel always being based on a response, a decision to follow, and never forced on someone against their will.<br /><br />4) Only the predestined, the elect will believe and then continue in that faith. However, apart from the individual, that is only something God knows for sure.<br /><br />5) Psalm 51:2,7, John 13:8, Acts 22:16 (" Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.' (notice how baptism always requires a choice), Hebrews 9:14, 1 John 1:7, 1 John 1:9, Revelation 1:5, Leviticus 16:30, Isaiah 1:16, Jeremiah 4:14, Ezekiel 36:33, Zechariah 13:1Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1382810614574791176.post-73855641681664434462014-10-20T11:58:15.176-04:002014-10-20T11:58:15.176-04:001) Those three times are important, and cannot be ...1) Those three times are important, and cannot be discounted 2) The born again experience is not mentioned only three times. Paul constructs a whole theology on it (eg. see Romans 6 which talks about being dead to sin but alive in Christ), Ephesias 2:5, Galatians 2:20, Ephesias 4:22, and 2 Corinthians 5:17 are examples. So yes, in agreement with what Jesus said, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." Yes it does involves a decision, it does involve your heart, and does involve making him Lord- authority for all that is Romans 10:9 amongst other places.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1382810614574791176.post-25766447916627127532013-07-18T17:24:51.432-04:002013-07-18T17:24:51.432-04:00Five questions that Baptists and Evangelicals shou...Five questions that Baptists and Evangelicals should ask themselves <br /><br />1. Does the Bible state that a sinner is capable of choosing righteousness/choosing God? <br /><br /> The Bible states that the sinner must believe and repent, but are these actions initiated and performed by man of his own intellectual abilities, or are faith, belief, and repentance a part of the entire "package" of salvation? Are faith, belief, and repentance part of the "free gift"? Does God give you faith, belief and repentance at the moment he "quickens" you, or does he require you to make a decision that you want them first, and only then does he give them to you?<br /><br /> 2. Is there any passage of Scripture that describes salvation in the Baptist/evangelical terms of: "Accept Christ into your heart", "Make a decision for Christ", "Pray to God and ask him to forgive you of your sins, come into your heart, and be your Lord and Savior (the Sinner's Prayer)". Is it possible that being "born again" is something that God does at a time of his choosing, and not something that man decides to do at a time of his choosing? Is man an active participant in his salvation in that he cooperates with God in a decision to believe, or is man a passive participant in his salvation; God does ALL the work?<br /><br /> 3. Is the Bible a static collection of words or do the Words of God have real power, real supernatural power? How does the Bible describe the Word? Is it the meaning of the Word that has power or do the words themselves have supernatural power to "quicken" the souls of sinners, creating faith, belief and repentance?<br /><br /> 4. Does preaching the Word save everyone who hears it or only the "predestined", the "elect", the "called", the "appointed" will believe when they hear the Word?<br /><br /> 5. WHEN does the Bible, if read in its simple, plain, literal rendering, say that sins are forgiven and washed away?<br /><br />Gary<br />Luther, Baptists, and Evangelicals Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519721717265344702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1382810614574791176.post-56498739686780297272013-07-17T14:36:12.141-04:002013-07-17T14:36:12.141-04:00Isn’t it odd that if Baptists and evangelicals are...Isn’t it odd that if Baptists and evangelicals are correct that their “born again experience” is the true and ONLY means of salvation, the term “born again” is only mentioned three times in the King James Bible? If “making a decision for Christ” is the only means of salvation, why doesn’t God mention it more often in his Word? Why only THREE times? Isn’t that REALLY, REALLY odd?<br /><br />Why is it that the Apostle Paul, the author of much of the New Testament, NEVER uses this term? Why is this term never used in the Book of Acts to describe the many mentioned Christian conversions? Why is this term only used by Jesus in a late night conversation with Nicodemus, and by Peter once in just one letter to Christians in Asia Minor?<br /><br />If you attend a Baptist/evangelical worship service what will you hear? You will hear this: “You must be born again: you must make a decision for Christ. You must ask Jesus into your heart. You must pray to God and ask him to forgive you of your sins, come into your heart, and be your Lord and Savior (the Sinner’s Prayer). You must be an older child or adult who has the mental capacity to make a decision to believe, to make a decision to repent, and to make a decision to ask Jesus into your heart.”<br /><br />It is very strange, however, that other than “you must be born again” none of this terminology is anywhere to be found in the Bible! Why do Baptists and evangelicals use this non-biblical terminology when discussing salvation?<br /><br />Maybe "accepting Christ into your heart" is NOT what being born again really means. Maybe…making a “decision” for Christ is NOT how God saves sinners!<br /><br />Gary<br />Luther, Baptists, and Evangelicals<br />Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519721717265344702noreply@blogger.com